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Kenny Bremer
Mon, Jan 15, 2024 7:30 PM
Hi Judd,
I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
Hi Judd,
I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
B
Bob
Mon, Jan 15, 2024 9:06 PM
just out of curiosity I decided to see how far back my Palm would go. and
it stopped at 1 Jan 1904.
I wonder if anyone has ever needed to put something on thiers that far
back??
I am glad you are working on a fix and appreciate it.
thank you
Bob
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
Hi Judd,
I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
just out of curiosity I decided to see how far back my Palm would go. and
it stopped at 1 Jan 1904.
I wonder if anyone has ever needed to put something on thiers that far
back??
I am glad you are working on a fix and appreciate it.
thank you
Bob
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
> Hi Judd,
>
> I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
>
> The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
>
> I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
>
> In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
> _______________________________________________
> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
>
>
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Bob
Mon, Jan 15, 2024 9:11 PM
oh and I forgot, I am not the least bit interested in a windoze version of
anything. I run Linux exclusively in all me computers and have since Y2K
Bob
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
Hi Judd,
I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
oh and I forgot, I am not the least bit interested in a windoze version of
anything. I run Linux exclusively in all me computers and have since Y2K
Bob
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
> Hi Judd,
>
> I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
>
> The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
>
> I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
>
> In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
> _______________________________________________
> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
>
>
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napakerr@hotmail.com
Tue, Jan 16, 2024 12:25 AM
Yes, they started back a bit farther than they should have, but it was the 90’s and I think the main concern was covering birth dates.
Yes, they started back a bit farther than they should have, but it was the 90’s and I think the main concern was covering birth dates.
KB
Kenny Bremer
Tue, Jan 16, 2024 9:52 AM
Which Palm device are you using?
From: Bob accessys@smart.net
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 1:11 PM
To: General support, questions, patches for J-Pilot. jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
Subject: [jp] Re: Palm Day
oh and I forgot, I am not the least bit interested in a windoze version of
anything. I run Linux exclusively in all me computers and have since Y2K
Bob
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
Hi Judd,
I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
Which Palm device are you using?
________________________________
From: Bob <accessys@smart.net>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 1:11 PM
To: General support, questions, patches for J-Pilot. <jpilot@lists.jpilot.org>
Subject: [jp] Re: Palm Day
oh and I forgot, I am not the least bit interested in a windoze version of
anything. I run Linux exclusively in all me computers and have since Y2K
Bob
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
> Hi Judd,
>
> I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
>
> The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
>
> I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
>
> In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
> _______________________________________________
> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
>
>
_______________________________________________
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
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Kenny Bremer
Tue, Jan 16, 2024 10:01 AM
I wouldn't worry about that: if JPilot is used, Ubuntu will still be the best option. If it's easy enough, maybe we could do an iOS port too. But the last guy I spoke to couldn't even get Palm Desktop installed on his own computer. The thought of getting most of these people on Linux just isn't reasonable. I didn't have any plans to incorporate Desktop, but if there's enough interest, it's worth my time.
I wouldn't worry about that: if JPilot is used, Ubuntu will still be the best option. If it's easy enough, maybe we could do an iOS port too. But the last guy I spoke to couldn't even get Palm Desktop installed on his own computer. The thought of getting most of these people on Linux just isn't reasonable. I didn't have any plans to incorporate Desktop, but if there's enough interest, it's worth my time.
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Bob
Tue, Jan 16, 2024 2:36 PM
TX
Bob
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
Which Palm device are you using?
From: Bob accessys@smart.net
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 1:11 PM
To: General support, questions, patches for J-Pilot. jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
Subject: [jp] Re: Palm Day
oh and I forgot, I am not the least bit interested in a windoze version of
anything. I run Linux exclusively in all me computers and have since Y2K
Bob
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
Hi Judd,
I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
TX
Bob
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
> Which Palm device are you using?
> ________________________________
> From: Bob <accessys@smart.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 1:11 PM
> To: General support, questions, patches for J-Pilot. <jpilot@lists.jpilot.org>
> Subject: [jp] Re: Palm Day
>
>
> oh and I forgot, I am not the least bit interested in a windoze version of
> anything. I run Linux exclusively in all me computers and have since Y2K
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
>
>> Hi Judd,
>>
>> I'll try to keep this concise. There's been a bit of a rumble regarding getting the Palm Day problem fixed. The issues are quite worse than I was expecting. This will be a very challenging and time-consuming problem to solve, but I have a prototype and a plan of attack. Because of the level of difficulty, I had set the project aside, but am being pressured to come up with a solution. I reasoned that having till 2030 there was time, but I think a large part of the problem now is that people are using Datebook to setup reminders of expired contracts, leases, etc which are beginning to fall out of range.
>>
>> The reason I'm reaching out to you is that even if I had a fix for Palm OS, that doesn't fix the Desktop app. I've tried emulating JPilot in Windows, but 1. It doesn't work great, 2. USB through an emulator is challenging, and 3. The setup is just too involved for the average person.
>>
>> I personally quit hot-syncing years ago, but for those who have contacted me, that's not an option. If I came up with a fix, we'd need to have an easy to install/setup desktop application which works in Windows with USB support.
>>
>> In the interest of keeping Palm alive, are you perhaps willing to consider a windows port of JPilot along with a few minor adjustments needed to handle an alternate date epoch? Seeing that it's a GTK+ project, I thought perhaps it would be a relatively reasonable undertaking.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
> _______________________________________________
> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
>
>
B
Bob
Tue, Jan 16, 2024 2:41 PM
I use the Kubuntu variant of Ubuntu. (currently 22.04LTS version)
jpilot will load and work on my desktop
but have never been able to get it to link with my TX. just enter stuff
manually, the earlier version of Kubuntu would link so I don't know
haven,t gotten around to messing with it.
my next issue with my palm is proably going to be a new battery. know
how to do it and have sourced the battery (I think) but haven't gotten the
"Round tuit"
Bob
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
I wouldn't worry about that: if JPilot is used, Ubuntu will still be the best option. If it's easy enough, maybe we could do an iOS port too. But the last guy I spoke to couldn't even get Palm Desktop installed on his own computer. The thought of getting most of these people on Linux just isn't reasonable. I didn't have any plans to incorporate Desktop, but if there's enough interest, it's worth my time.
Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
I use the Kubuntu variant of Ubuntu. (currently 22.04LTS version)
jpilot will load and work on my desktop
but have never been able to get it to link with my TX. just enter stuff
manually, the earlier version of Kubuntu would link so I don't know
haven,t gotten around to messing with it.
my next issue with my palm is proably going to be a new battery. know
how to do it and have sourced the battery (I think) but haven't gotten the
"Round tuit"
Bob
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, Kenny Bremer wrote:
> I wouldn't worry about that: if JPilot is used, Ubuntu will still be the best option. If it's easy enough, maybe we could do an iOS port too. But the last guy I spoke to couldn't even get Palm Desktop installed on his own computer. The thought of getting most of these people on Linux just isn't reasonable. I didn't have any plans to incorporate Desktop, but if there's enough interest, it's worth my time.
> _______________________________________________
> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
>
>
DH
D. Hugh Redelmeier
Tue, Jan 16, 2024 4:49 PM
| From: Kenny Bremer napakerr@hotmail.com
| I wouldn't worry about that: if JPilot is used, Ubuntu will still be the
| best option.
Last I checked, the Windows Subsystem for Linux runs Ubuntu. As I
understand it, the version on Win 11 (WSL 2) will even run Wayland
(graphical) applications. Would this be enough to run JPilot on Windows?
The advantage of the WSL is that it comes with Windows and is supported by
Microsoft. It's a lot easier than creating a dual-boot system.
| From: Kenny Bremer <napakerr@hotmail.com>
| I wouldn't worry about that: if JPilot is used, Ubuntu will still be the
| best option.
Last I checked, the Windows Subsystem for Linux runs Ubuntu. As I
understand it, the version on Win 11 (WSL 2) will even run Wayland
(graphical) applications. Would this be enough to run JPilot on Windows?
The advantage of the WSL is that it comes with Windows and is supported by
Microsoft. It's a lot easier than creating a dual-boot system.
UZ
Ulf Zibis
Tue, Jan 16, 2024 5:08 PM
Do you have added dialout to groups of your user?
Am 16.01.24 um 15:41 schrieb Bob:
I use the Kubuntu variant of Ubuntu. (currently 22.04LTS version)
jpilot will load and work on my desktop but have never been able to get it to link with my TX.
Do you have added `dialout` to groups of your user?
Am 16.01.24 um 15:41 schrieb Bob:
> I use the Kubuntu variant of Ubuntu. (currently 22.04LTS version)
> jpilot will load and work on my desktop but have never been able to get it to link with my TX.
