On 1/12/21 10:06 am, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

Last century I had a gig where I had to extract a whole lot of data from
mainframes onto Linux boxes for a government department.  A big company
quoted $20M and said they needed a room of computers.  Anyway, I did it
with 2 computers.  I only needed the second one because the RAID array
was too slow, so I had to spool to another box and then file it away.

What has this got to do with a Palm pilot?  Well the job needed some
minimal baby sitting and I would log in from home.

Then I had to go on a driving holiday.  I used to SSH in from the Palm
Pilot through the phone.  Worked like a charm.

Too long a go to remember the details.  I think I had a cable between
the Palmie and phone.

I will try to search for a backup later and see which SSH program it was.

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Best Regards
...Peter

On 1/12/21 10:26 am, Peter Schwenke wrote:

I found a pssh.prc on a backup from this century.  When I searched
DuckDuckGo I found this page

https://wiki.robotz.com/index.php

and it mentioned Top Gun ssh.  That rings some sort of bell.

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Regards
...Peter

Hello:

Thanks a lot.

Best,

JHM

Hello:

Yes.

Yesterday `pssh` v.2005-06-23 found on the web and `TUssh` v.0.83 from the link I posted earlier on.

As for `TopGun ssh` it seems to have vanished.

On start-up, `pssh` shows two large warning popups with respect to how insecure it is due to it’s low quality random number generator.

It would not be an issue as my idea is to use a cable.

It connects through a WiFi link and a modem/phone and only has the option for SSH2.

It seems that `TUssh` works only through a modem/phone but has options for SSH1/2 and does seem to be a more polished product.

I would say that the cable you used was to the phone but that’s not an option for me.

There must be a hack somewhere for this experiment …  8^ )

ie: a RJ45/etehrnet cable direct from the Tungsten to the ADSL router.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Best,

JHM

Hello:

Not really a hack.

Just have to find out how to work your way around the interminable intricacies of how ssh is configured, quite complicated.

Tl;dr: for anyone interested
After many hours of fiddling/browsing and some great help from a chap at comp.security.ssh, I managed to ssh into the Devuan ascii VBox VM I have running PiHole for my Devuan Beowulf installation.

You can see most if not all the gory details here: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.securi … u0VvfEQudc

Of course, I am quite aware that ssh'ing into a system using deprecated protocols obviously implies security issues, but in this specific case I think I have attenuated them with three things:

1. WiFi access to the ADSL router is MAC filtered. ie: it will only allow *this* specific Palm T|X handheld to log in.

2. A (relatively) complex WPA/WPA2 PSK Mixed PW such as this one is used: 4N@8974+6231, obviously with room to improve.

It is very unfortunate that the good people at Palm saw it fit to make the last Personal security upgrade only to WEP/WPA-PSK with a pre-shared key.

This made it useless outside the realm of home routers.

Enterprise security got EAP-TLS, EAP-TTLS, PAP, CHAP, MSCHAP, MSCHAPv2, EAP-GTC (password), EAP-MD5-Challenge, EAP-MSCHAPv2, EAP-PEAP (v0 and v1), MSCHAPv2, GTC (password), MD5-Challenge, LEAP and Dynamic WEP (WEP encryption with 802.1x based authentication).

3. For the time being, WiFi is enabled on a per-case basis till I can think up a more complex PW.

Best,

A.