Hello jpiloters, I am getting a lot out of using Natara Bonsai alongside the built-in apps on my Palm. It is great for project management. It is basically an outlining application. However it is tricky to use it if you don't have a desktop version to do things like complex editing, printing, etc. The obvious choice would be to run the Desktop verison of Natara Bonsai on a Virtual Box however synchronisation would have to be through Palm Desktop. As we have been reading recently in this mailing list it is difficult to get Palm Desktop to talk to the serial ports from within a Virtual Box these days. I was wondering if jpilot could come to the rescue. I see two options here: 1. A conduit in jpilot, then use the desktop version of Natara Bonsai in a Virtual Box but without needing access tot he COM ports or Palm Desktop for synchronisation. Would tht work? 2. A full-blown Natara Bonsai Desktop clone within jpilot. It is actually not such a complex application, mostly just an outliner. What do you think? Jorge

Hi Jorge, I guess, that your software keeps its data in one or more PDB databases, right? If you use the JPilot "Backup" function, those databases will be copied to ~/.jpilot/backupmmddyyyy From there you could copy or link them to your desktop application. After you edited your data, you could copy it back by JPilots "Restore" function. This is not the same than a record-wise sync of your databases, but it may fullfil your needs. -Ulf

On 3/23/23 14:06, Jorge Quintanilla wrote: > Hello jpiloters, > > I am getting a lot out of using Natara Bonsai alongside the built-in > apps on my Palm. It is great for project management. It is basically an > outlining application. However it is tricky to use it if you don't have > a desktop version to do things like complex editing, printing, etc. > > The obvious choice would be to run the Desktop verison of Natara Bonsai > on a Virtual Box however synchronisation would have to be through Palm > Desktop. As we have been reading recently in this mailing list it is > difficult to get Palm Desktop to talk to the serial ports from within a > Virtual Box these days. I was wondering if jpilot could come to the rescue. > > I see two options here: > > 1. A conduit in jpilot, then use the desktop version of Natara Bonsai > in a Virtual Box but without needing access tot he COM ports or Palm > Desktop for synchronisation. Would tht work? The Palm Desktop doesn't back up the databases in the same format as pilot-link and jpilot.  There maybe libraries out there to do this. I have not checked in many years. > 2. A full-blown Natara Bonsai Desktop clone within jpilot. It is > actually not such a complex application, mostly just an outliner. That is possible.  A good amount of the work would be reverse engineering the database.  If the author documented the database records or is willing to then that portion wouldn't be too bad. Someone would just have to write the app in GTK3, which isn't a small amount of work Judd