Hello: Forced to upgrade my Linux Devuan Beowulf to Chimaera, I was then boxed into a corner by problems with the native nouveau driver and had no choice but to upgrade Daedalus (stable) which seems to have solved my twin video cards/multiple monitor problems. `:~$ uname -a` `Linux devuan 6.1.0-21-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.90-1 (2024-05-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux` `:~$` I would have happily remained on Beowulf as, my hardware is ca. 2010. But here we are and I now have a problem with my J-Pilot 1.8.2 which had been working perfectly well till now. The problem is that I can sync the Palm to the desktop+backup (icon with Palm and red arrow) but if I want to just sync, the process freezes at “Fetching ‘Saved Preferences (Creator ID ‘psys’) … OK” and I cannot shut it down. If I insist, I get a ‘Warning’ pop-up about the window being busy / not responding asking if I want to terminate the application, to which I click ‘Yes’. On starting up again, I see that J-Pilot it has not maintained the previous screen geometry. If I correct this and shut it down, on starting it up again the geometry is as I had set it before so it is obviously a consequence of the forced termination. The system recognises the Palm as usual: `~$ lsusb` ` —- snip —-` ` Bus 010 Device 027: ID 0830:0061 Palm, Inc. Lifedrive / Treo 650/680 / Tunsten E2/T5/TX / Centro / Zire 21/31/72 / Z22` ` —- snip —-` `~$` The output of a rolling `dmesg` screen as this happens is this: `[May26 17:12] usb 10-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd jpilot rqt 194 rq 4 len 20 ret -71` `[ +0.000996] usb 10-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd jpilot rqt 194 rq 4 len 20 ret -71` `[ +0.000999] usb 10-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd jpilot rqt 194 rq 4 len 20 ret -71` `[ +0.012754] usb 10-1: USB disconnect, device number 24` `[ +0.531727] usb 10-1: new full-speed USB device number 25 using uhci_hcd` `[ +0.193018] usb 10-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, idProduct=0061, bcdDevice= 1.00` `[ +0.000010] usb 10-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5` `[ +0.000003] usb 10-1: Product: Palm Handheld` `[ +0.000004] usb 10-1: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.` `[ +0.000002] usb 10-1: SerialNumber: PN70M1Y7V4V0` `[ +6.463021] usb 10-1: USB disconnect, device number 25` `[ +0.615940] usb 10-1: new full-speed USB device number 26 using uhci_hcd` `[ +0.193022] usb 10-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, idProduct=0061, bcdDevice= 1.00` `[ +0.000009] usb 10-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5` `[ +0.000004] usb 10-1: Product: Palm Handheld` `[ +0.000003] usb 10-1: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.` `[ +0.000002] usb 10-1: SerialNumber: PN70M1Y7V4V0` `[May26 17:13] usb 10-1: USB disconnect, device number 26` There are also entries in `var/log/messages` \:/var/log$ cat messages —- snip —- May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.420108\] usb 10-1: new full-speed USB device number 27 using uhci_hcd May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617128\] usb 10-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, idProduct=0061, bcdDevice= 1.00 May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617135\] usb 10-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5 May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617139\] usb 10-1: Product: Palm Handheld May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617142\] usb 10-1: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617144\] usb 10-1: SerialNumber: PN70M1Y7V4V0 May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: checking bus 10, device 27: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb10/10-1" May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: bus: 10, device: 27 was not an MTP device May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: checking bus 10, device 27: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb10/10-1" May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: bus: 10, device: 27 was not an MTP device —- snip —- Please advise. Thanks in advance. Best, JHM

root@debian:~# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/69-FS4000US-MTP.rules 
ATTR{idVendor}=="04a9", ATTR{idProduct}=="3042", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="660", GROUP="scanner", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1", TAG+="uaccess"
root@debian:~#

Hello: I think I have found what may be a lead to the problem at hand. It is not specifically related to j-pilot but it does have to do with `mtp-probe` and my Palm not being an MTP device. See here [https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/12/msg00834.html](https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/12/msg00834.html "here") > ... recently moved to Debian Stretch, and gave a little more time to this problem. I noticed that udev raises an error saying "... was not an MTP device", and after some search on the net I managed to make VueScan work by adding a specific udev rule: > > ``` > root@debian:~# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/69-FS4000US-MTP.rules > ATTR{idVendor}=="04a9", ATTR{idProduct}=="3042", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="660", GROUP="scanner", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1", TAG+="uaccess" > root@debian:~# > > ``` The problem I have is that I don’t know exactly what to do with this information ie: how to write up a specific `udev` rule for the Palm. If any one has a clue, I’d appreciate the input. Thanks in advance. Best, JHM

Hi Henry, I too observe, that JPilot freezes from time to time when syncing. Sometimes the preferences (geometry and others) are lost after, sometimes not. But after restart, it normally works again. I'm ob Ubuntu. If I run `jpilot -d`, then I often can see some SEGFAULT errors, which mostly don't harm, but sometimes. So maybe run JPilot in the debug mode, to find more info. By the way, I use JPilot version 2.0.1, because version 1.8.2 seems to not work properly on 64 bit systems. -Ulf Am 26.05.24 um 22:53 schrieb Julius Henry Marx via Jpilot: > Hello: > > Forced to upgrade my Linux Devuan Beowulf to Chimaera, I was then boxed into a corner by problems with the native nouveau driver and had no choice but to upgrade Daedalus (stable) which seems to have solved my twin video cards/multiple monitor problems. > > `:~$ uname -a` > > `Linux devuan 6.1.0-21-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.90-1 (2024-05-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux` > > `:~$` > > I would have happily remained on Beowulf as, my hardware is ca. 2010. > > But here we are and I now have a problem with my J-Pilot 1.8.2 which had been working perfectly well till now. > > The problem is that I can sync the Palm to the desktop+backup (icon with Palm and red arrow) but if I want to just sync, the process freezes at “Fetching ‘Saved Preferences (Creator ID ‘psys’) … OK” and I cannot shut it down. > > If I insist, I get a ‘Warning’ pop-up about the window being busy / not responding asking if I want to terminate the application, to which I click ‘Yes’. > > On starting up again, I see that J-Pilot it has not maintained the previous screen geometry. > > If I correct this and shut it down, on starting it up again the geometry is as I had set it before so it is obviously a consequence of the forced termination. > > The system recognises the Palm as usual: > > `~$ lsusb` > > ` —- snip —-` > > ` Bus 010 Device 027: ID 0830:0061 Palm, Inc. Lifedrive / Treo 650/680 / Tunsten E2/T5/TX / Centro / Zire 21/31/72 / Z22` > > ` —- snip —-` > > `~$` > > The output of a rolling `dmesg` screen as this happens is this: > > `[May26 17:12] usb 10-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd jpilot rqt 194 rq 4 len 20 ret -71` > > `[ +0.000996] usb 10-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd jpilot rqt 194 rq 4 len 20 ret -71` > > `[ +0.000999] usb 10-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd jpilot rqt 194 rq 4 len 20 ret -71` > > `[ +0.012754] usb 10-1: USB disconnect, device number 24` > > `[ +0.531727] usb 10-1: new full-speed USB device number 25 using uhci_hcd` > > `[ +0.193018] usb 10-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, idProduct=0061, bcdDevice= 1.00` > > `[ +0.000010] usb 10-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5` > > `[ +0.000003] usb 10-1: Product: Palm Handheld` > > `[ +0.000004] usb 10-1: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.` > > `[ +0.000002] usb 10-1: SerialNumber: PN70M1Y7V4V0` > > `[ +6.463021] usb 10-1: USB disconnect, device number 25` > > `[ +0.615940] usb 10-1: new full-speed USB device number 26 using uhci_hcd` > > `[ +0.193022] usb 10-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, idProduct=0061, bcdDevice= 1.00` > > `[ +0.000009] usb 10-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5` > > `[ +0.000004] usb 10-1: Product: Palm Handheld` > > `[ +0.000003] usb 10-1: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.` > > `[ +0.000002] usb 10-1: SerialNumber: PN70M1Y7V4V0` > > `[May26 17:13] usb 10-1: USB disconnect, device number 26` > > There are also entries in `var/log/messages` > > \:/var/log$ cat messages > > —- snip —- > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.420108\] usb 10-1: new full-speed USB device number 27 using uhci_hcd > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617128\] usb 10-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, idProduct=0061, bcdDevice= 1.00 > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617135\] usb 10-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5 > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617139\] usb 10-1: Product: Palm Handheld > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617142\] usb 10-1: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan kernel: \[ 3025.617144\] usb 10-1: SerialNumber: PN70M1Y7V4V0 > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: checking bus 10, device 27: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb10/10-1" > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: bus: 10, device: 27 was not an MTP device > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: checking bus 10, device 27: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb10/10-1" > > May 26 17:20:55 devuan mtp-probe: bus: 10, device: 27 was not an MTP device > > —- snip —- > > Please advise. > > Thanks in advance. > > Best, > > JHM > _______________________________________________ > Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org

Hello: > I too observe, that JPilot freezes from time to time … That is something that has mostly happened when I have had a faulty connection/cable. > … JPilot version 2.0.1, because version 1.8.2 seems to not work properly on 64 bit systems. Fortunately not my case. I have had this (Sun Ultra 24 WS) for many years now and used v1.8.2 from when it was published by Judd and it has been so without issues. The problem at hand (seems to me) is `udev` and the rule I need to get written up for `j-pilot` to sync without freezing up. I have been searching the net for a sample rule but to no avail. I will try to start it up with the `-d `and see if I can get more information. Thanks for your input. Best, JHM

Hello: > I will try to start it up … For whatever reason this problem has (for the moment) gone away. But I have come across another one which I will address in another thread. Thanks to all for your input. Best, JHM