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KeyRing password problem - Update

S
sawbona (at) gmx.net
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 3:14 AM

Hello:

I found this tidbit from 09/2009 here:

[url]https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1260547&s=6dc34dcd9fa6e38a89c2143a3cf
83ec7&p=8100004#post8100004[/url]

--- quote ---
... switched the version of Keyring on my Palm to version keyring-2.0-pre6-en so that it would
work with the java desktop version of the Keyring program, KeyringEditor.jar.

This was because KeyringEditor.jar fails to work with database version 4 and requires
database version 5, which is supplied by keyring-2.0-pre6-en.

Well, JPILOT cannot read database version 4.

Once I removed keyring-2.0-pre6-en from my Palm and installed version keyring-1.2.3-en,
that uses database version 4, JPILOT's KeyRing plugin works just fine.

The rub is that KeyringEditor.jar is supposed to support database versions 4 & 5, but 4 fails
to work.

--- /quote ---

I can confirm that this is so.

Unfortunately, it leaves KeyRing without the new features ie: Changes from 1.2.

  • New algorithms DES3-CBC and AES-CBC.
  • Use PBKDF2 for key generation.
  • New record format, allowing to store more than the standard fields
    later.
  • Make name/account/password fields scrollable to support long passwords.
  • Generate Hex passwords.

I also came across this page:

[url]https://jochen-hoenicke.de/keyring2-pre/griessnig/[/url]

--- quote ---
KeyringEditor

KeyringEditor is a Java-based frontend for "Keyring for Palm OS".
It can be used to read and write backup copies of the Keys-Gtkr.pdb
found after synchronising your Palm to your desktop.

Be aware:
this program is not HOTSYNC compatible. You have to overwrite
the "Keys-Gtkr.pdb" file on Palm after editing with KeyringEditor. For
example use FileZ (http://www.nosleep.net) to delete the database on
Palm or make sure to overwrite and not to synchronize the database.

It works with Keyring database format 4 (v1.2.3) and 5 (v2.0-pre4).

--- /quote---

Is this realted to the issue at hand?
Is there a way around it?

Thanks in advance.

S.

Hello: I found this tidbit from 09/2009 here: [url]https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1260547&s=6dc34dcd9fa6e38a89c2143a3cf 83ec7&p=8100004#post8100004[/url] --- quote --- ... switched the version of Keyring on my Palm to version keyring-2.0-pre6-en so that it would work with the java desktop version of the Keyring program, KeyringEditor.jar. This was because KeyringEditor.jar fails to work with database version 4 and requires database version 5, which is supplied by keyring-2.0-pre6-en. Well, JPILOT cannot read database version 4. Once I removed keyring-2.0-pre6-en from my Palm and installed version keyring-1.2.3-en, that uses database version 4, JPILOT's KeyRing plugin works just fine. The rub is that KeyringEditor.jar is supposed to support database versions 4 & 5, but 4 fails to work. --- /quote --- I can confirm that this is so. Unfortunately, it leaves KeyRing without the new features ie: Changes from 1.2. * New algorithms DES3-CBC and AES-CBC. * Use PBKDF2 for key generation. * New record format, allowing to store more than the standard fields later. * Make name/account/password fields scrollable to support long passwords. * Generate Hex passwords. I also came across this page: [url]https://jochen-hoenicke.de/keyring2-pre/griessnig/[/url] --- quote --- KeyringEditor KeyringEditor is a Java-based frontend for "Keyring for Palm OS". It can be used to read and write backup copies of the Keys-Gtkr.pdb found after synchronising your Palm to your desktop. Be aware: this program is not HOTSYNC compatible. You have to overwrite the "Keys-Gtkr.pdb" file on Palm after editing with KeyringEditor. For example use FileZ (http://www.nosleep.net) to delete the database on Palm or make sure to overwrite and not to synchronize the database. It works with Keyring database format 4 (v1.2.3) and 5 (v2.0-pre4). --- /quote--- Is this realted to the issue at hand? Is there a way around it? Thanks in advance. S.
KS
Karl Schmidt
Wed, Sep 2, 2026 9:02 PM

Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2

If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring?

I ran $ jpilot -d

from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring?

Totally confused at this point...

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3209 West 9th Street                          Ph (785) 841-3089
Lawrence, KS 66049

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Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2 If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring? I ran $ jpilot -d from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring? Totally confused at this point... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Schmidt EMail karl@lrak.net 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 The only thing worse than having diarrhea is having to spell it. -kps --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JM
Judd Montgomery
Wed, Sep 2, 2026 9:08 PM

Did you install jpilot-plugins?

On 9/2/26 17:02, Karl Schmidt wrote:

Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2

If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring?

I ran $ jpilot -d

from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring?

Totally confused at this point...

--

Karl Schmidt                                  EMail karl@lrak.net
3209 West 9th Street                          Ph (785) 841-3089
Lawrence, KS 66049

The only thing worse than having diarrhea is having to spell it. -kps


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Did you install jpilot-plugins? On 9/2/26 17:02, Karl Schmidt wrote: > Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2 > > If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring? > > I ran $ jpilot -d > > from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring? > > Totally confused at this point... > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Karl Schmidt EMail karl@lrak.net > 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 > Lawrence, KS 66049 > > The only thing worse than having diarrhea is having to spell it. -kps > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org
JM
Judd Montgomery
Wed, Sep 2, 2026 9:48 PM

How did you install jpilot?  Will sudo apt install jpilot-plugins work?

If not, then run:
which jpilot
dpkg -l | grep jpilot.

Judd

On 9/2/26 17:02, Karl Schmidt wrote:

Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2

If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring?

I ran $ jpilot -d

 from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring?

Totally confused at this point...

How did you install jpilot?  Will sudo apt install jpilot-plugins work? If not, then run: which jpilot dpkg -l | grep jpilot. Judd On 9/2/26 17:02, Karl Schmidt wrote: > Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2 > > If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring? > > I ran $ jpilot -d > >  from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring? > > Totally confused at this point... > >
KS
Karl Schmidt
Wed, Sep 9, 2026 10:08 PM

I figured it out - there were two versions of jpilot-plugins_2.0.2-1_amd64.deb

On 2026-09-02 04:08p.m., Judd Montgomery wrote:

Did you install jpilot-plugins?

On 9/2/26 17:02, Karl Schmidt wrote:

Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2

If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring?

I ran $ jpilot -d

 from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring?

Totally confused at this point...

--

Karl Schmidt                                  EMail karl@lrak.net
3209 West 9th Street                          Ph (785) 841-3089
Lawrence, KS 66049

The only thing worse than having diarrhea is having to spell it. -kps


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Karl Schmidt                                  EMail karl@lrak.net
3209 West 9th Street                          Ph (785) 841-3089
Lawrence, KS 66049

There is no security in life, only opportunity - Mark Twain

I figured it out - there were two versions of jpilot-plugins_2.0.2-1_amd64.deb On 2026-09-02 04:08p.m., Judd Montgomery wrote: > Did you install jpilot-plugins? > > On 9/2/26 17:02, Karl Schmidt wrote: >> Running Debian stable - jpilot 2.0.2 >> >> If I click on plugins, I see expense and SQLite - but no keyring? >> >> I ran $ jpilot -d >> >> from the command line with the -d option - no mention of keyring? >> >> Totally confused at this point... >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Karl Schmidt EMail karl@lrak.net >> 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 >> Lawrence, KS 66049 >> >> The only thing worse than having diarrhea is having to spell it. -kps >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org > _______________________________________________ > Jpilot mailing list -- jpilot@lists.jpilot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to jpilot-leave@lists.jpilot.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Schmidt EMail karl@lrak.net 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 There is no security in life, only opportunity - Mark Twain --------------------------------------------------------------------------------