JM
Judd Montgomery
Mon, Oct 9, 2023 5:28 PM
On 10/9/23 05:17, Ulf Zibis wrote:
Have you tried to negotiate with harmonylists.com, because our list has very little traffic?
I did and am waiting on a response.
Judd
On 10/9/23 05:17, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Have you tried to negotiate with harmonylists.com, because our list has very little traffic?
I did and am waiting on a response.
Judd
JM
Judd Montgomery
Mon, Oct 9, 2023 5:29 PM
On 10/9/23 05:21, Ulf Zibis wrote:
Another disadvantage in the case of a move would be that all previous messages would be lost.
I can export them and import them at the new place. I've moved twice
before and we still have an archive going back to 2002!
On 10/9/23 05:21, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Another disadvantage in the case of a move would be that all previous messages would be lost.
I can export them and import them at the new place. I've moved twice
before and we still have an archive going back to 2002!
EK
Elmar Klausmeier
Mon, Oct 9, 2023 6:13 PM
On 10/9/23 05:21, Ulf Zibis wrote:
Another disadvantage in the case of a move would be that all previous
From my perspective there is nothing wrong with Google groups. They host a
variety of notable groups like Linux.Debian.Security /1/, Sundials /2/,
Android-Platform /3/, Android-Building /4/, etc.
Another route: Use a Facebook group. Whenever somebody posts something
there, you can get notified via e-mail.
On a similar vein: I or anyone else can host a phpBB forum /5/. Whenever a
new entry is there, you can get notification via e-mail. Though setting up
e-mail is always a hassle because outgoing e-mail is not always accepted by
all mail providers.
Both Facebook and phpBB have the "problem" that they must be constantly
monitored to keep them from becoming infested from unwanted advertisements.
- - -
/1/ https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.security
/2/ https://groups.google.com/g/sundials-users
/3/ https://groups.google.com/g/android-platform
/4/ https://groups.google.com/g/android-building
/5/ https://www.phpbb.com
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 7:30 PM Judd Montgomery <judd@jpilot.org> wrote:
> On 10/9/23 05:21, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> > Another disadvantage in the case of a move would be that all previous
> messages would be lost.
>
> I can export them and import them at the new place. I've moved twice
> before and we still have an archive going back to 2002!
>
>
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Ulf Zibis
Wed, Oct 11, 2023 3:42 PM
Btw., I think, using such a historic smart phone is radical. And too it has political impact, because it prevents from surveillance and tracking. :-)
Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
Btw., I think, using such a historic smart phone is *radical*. And too it has political impact, because it prevents from surveillance and tracking. :-)
Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
> We're not political or radical.
>
> https://riseup.net/en/lists/list-admin/configuration/creating-lists
JM
Judd Montgomery
Wed, Oct 11, 2023 3:53 PM
I think you are correct. We could redesign the website to look
political and radical. Maybe some AI generated photos of babies in a
sweatshop assembling iPhones and blood dripping down a Pixel phone held
by a faceless man in a business suit that is on fire (it doesn't need to
make sense). We'd scare away the people we don't want in our little
radical group ;-)
That was my Halloween humor.
On 10/11/23 11:42, Ulf Zibis wrote:
Btw., I think, using such a historic smart phone is radical. And too it has political impact, because it prevents from surveillance and tracking. :-)
Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
I think you are correct. We could redesign the website to look
political and radical. Maybe some AI generated photos of babies in a
sweatshop assembling iPhones and blood dripping down a Pixel phone held
by a faceless man in a business suit that is on fire (it doesn't need to
make sense). We'd scare away the people we don't want in our little
radical group ;-)
That was my Halloween humor.
On 10/11/23 11:42, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Btw., I think, using such a historic smart phone is *radical*. And too it has political impact, because it prevents from surveillance and tracking. :-)
>
> Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
>> We're not political or radical.
>>
>> https://riseup.net/en/lists/list-admin/configuration/creating-lists
PD
Paul Donlan
Wed, Oct 11, 2023 7:22 PM
Judd: I have no particular suggestions but I do enjoy reading what you or others post on the mailing list. I want to thank you for all the help you have given us hangers-on users of Jpilot. Paul Donlan
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On Oct 8, 2023, at 6:51 PM, Judd Montgomery judd@jpilot.org wrote:
I have a paid email service. It might very likely get blocked from
sending out mass emails or get black listed.I should be able to find a
mailman service for $4/mo or so.
Judd
On 10/8/23 18:22, Ulf Zibis wrote:
Maybe you could configure a filter in TB, to forward any incoming mail to the whole list. But this would only work, if your TB instance is running 24/7. So better configure the filter server-side. Netcup https://www.netcup.de has cheap offers for web space including email with sieve-filtering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language). Maybe your web provider also offers such. Another limitation is, that free email providers have a limit of addressees per CC: and per hour.
Am 08.10.23 um 21:53 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
I use Thunderbird. Would this be just creating a group and an Auto forward rule?
On October 8, 2023 3:16:55 PM EDT, Kevin Jaspankjaspan@gmail.com wrote:
Try Thunderbird, which is not a mailing service but works well. I have about 40 contacts in one of my groups and it does the job.
Kevin
On Oct 8 2023, at 2:31 pm, Ulf ZibisUlf.Zibis@cosoco.de wrote:
Oh sorry, they have not been so restrictive in the past.
Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
We're not political or radical.
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> On Oct 8, 2023, at 6:51 PM, Judd Montgomery <judd@jpilot.org> wrote:
>
> I have a paid email service. It might very likely get blocked from
> sending out mass emails or get black listed.I should be able to find a
> mailman service for $4/mo or so.
>
> Judd
>
>> On 10/8/23 18:22, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> Maybe you could configure a filter in TB, to forward any incoming mail to the whole list. But this would only work, if your TB instance is running 24/7. So better configure the filter server-side. Netcup <https://www.netcup.de> has cheap offers for web space including email with sieve-filtering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language)>. Maybe your web provider also offers such. Another limitation is, that free email providers have a limit of addressees per CC: and per hour.
>>
>>> Am 08.10.23 um 21:53 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
>>> I use Thunderbird. Would this be just creating a group and an Auto forward rule?
>>>
>>>> On October 8, 2023 3:16:55 PM EDT, Kevin Jaspan<kjaspan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try Thunderbird, which is not a mailing service but works well. I have about 40 contacts in one of my groups and it does the job.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8 2023, at 2:31 pm, Ulf Zibis<Ulf.Zibis@cosoco.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh sorry, they have not been so restrictive in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We're not political or radical.
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Bob
Sat, Oct 14, 2023 12:51 AM
would it help if the readers who appreciate your e-mails to list you on
our white lists so you can get thru no matter what?????
or are they blocking your sending it out??
have you asked the FSF if they know how to get it to work??
Bob
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023, Paul Donlan wrote:
Judd: I have no particular suggestions but I do enjoy reading what you or others post on the mailing list. I want to thank you for all the help you have given us hangers-on users of Jpilot. Paul Donlan
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 8, 2023, at 6:51 PM, Judd Montgomery judd@jpilot.org wrote:
I have a paid email service. It might very likely get blocked from
sending out mass emails or get black listed.I should be able to find a
mailman service for $4/mo or so.
Judd
On 10/8/23 18:22, Ulf Zibis wrote:
Maybe you could configure a filter in TB, to forward any incoming mail to the whole list. But this would only work, if your TB instance is running 24/7. So better configure the filter server-side. Netcup https://www.netcup.de has cheap offers for web space including email with sieve-filtering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language). Maybe your web provider also offers such. Another limitation is, that free email providers have a limit of addressees per CC: and per hour.
Am 08.10.23 um 21:53 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
I use Thunderbird. Would this be just creating a group and an Auto forward rule?
On October 8, 2023 3:16:55 PM EDT, Kevin Jaspankjaspan@gmail.com wrote:
Try Thunderbird, which is not a mailing service but works well. I have about 40 contacts in one of my groups and it does the job.
Kevin
On Oct 8 2023, at 2:31 pm, Ulf ZibisUlf.Zibis@cosoco.de wrote:
Oh sorry, they have not been so restrictive in the past.
Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
We're not political or radical.
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would it help if the readers who appreciate your e-mails to list you on
our white lists so you can get thru no matter what?????
or are they blocking your sending it out??
have you asked the FSF if they know how to get it to work??
Bob
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023, Paul Donlan wrote:
> Judd: I have no particular suggestions but I do enjoy reading what you or others post on the mailing list. I want to thank you for all the help you have given us hangers-on users of Jpilot. Paul Donlan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 8, 2023, at 6:51 PM, Judd Montgomery <judd@jpilot.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have a paid email service. It might very likely get blocked from
>> sending out mass emails or get black listed.I should be able to find a
>> mailman service for $4/mo or so.
>>
>> Judd
>>
>>> On 10/8/23 18:22, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>>> Maybe you could configure a filter in TB, to forward any incoming mail to the whole list. But this would only work, if your TB instance is running 24/7. So better configure the filter server-side. Netcup <https://www.netcup.de> has cheap offers for web space including email with sieve-filtering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language)>. Maybe your web provider also offers such. Another limitation is, that free email providers have a limit of addressees per CC: and per hour.
>>>
>>>> Am 08.10.23 um 21:53 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
>>>> I use Thunderbird. Would this be just creating a group and an Auto forward rule?
>>>>
>>>>> On October 8, 2023 3:16:55 PM EDT, Kevin Jaspan<kjaspan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Try Thunderbird, which is not a mailing service but works well. I have about 40 contacts in one of my groups and it does the job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8 2023, at 2:31 pm, Ulf Zibis<Ulf.Zibis@cosoco.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sorry, they have not been so restrictive in the past.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 08.10.23 um 20:18 schrieb Judd Montgomery:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're not political or radical.
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
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LL
Lucas Levrel
Mon, Oct 16, 2023 8:41 PM
Le 8 octobre 2023, ￜ 17:41, Judd Montgomery a ￜcrit :
The hosting company for this email list has decided to increase the
price from 10.50/quarter to $24/quarter.ￜ This is about twice the price
I am seeing at other inexpensive hosting places.
Does anyone have recommendations on where to host an email list?
Le 8 octobre 2023, ￜ 17:41, Judd Montgomery a ￜcrit :
> The hosting company for this email list has decided to increase the
> price from 10.50/quarter to $24/quarter.ￜ This is about twice the price
> I am seeing at other inexpensive hosting places.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations on where to host an email list?
If you understand a bit of French: you'll find a large list of
French-run mailing list services at
https://www.chatons.org/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=114&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=1&title=
--
Lucas
JM
Judd Montgomery
Tue, Oct 17, 2023 4:38 PM
I only saw one mailman service on there and I couldn't remember enough
French to read it much.It probably wouldn't be worth the trouble of
having a language barrier to save a few bucks. Thanks for the link,
though. I was thinking about https://www.mailmanhost.com/ and they did
not answer my question I asked (if I could import the old list
archives). I don't even see a place to sign up.
Judd
On 10/16/23 16:41, Lucas Levrel via Jpilot wrote:
Le 8 octobre 2023, ￜ 17:41, Judd Montgomery a ￜcrit :
The hosting company for this email list has decided to increase the
price from 10.50/quarter to $24/quarter.ￜ This is about twice the price
I am seeing at other inexpensive hosting places.
Does anyone have recommendations on where to host an email list?
I only saw one mailman service on there and I couldn't remember enough
French to read it much.It probably wouldn't be worth the trouble of
having a language barrier to save a few bucks. Thanks for the link,
though. I was thinking about https://www.mailmanhost.com/ and they did
not answer my question I asked (if I could import the old list
archives). I don't even see a place to sign up.
Judd
On 10/16/23 16:41, Lucas Levrel via Jpilot wrote:
> Le 8 octobre 2023, ￜ 17:41, Judd Montgomery a ￜcrit :
>
>> The hosting company for this email list has decided to increase the
>> price from 10.50/quarter to $24/quarter.ￜ This is about twice the price
>> I am seeing at other inexpensive hosting places.
>>
>> Does anyone have recommendations on where to host an email list?
> If you understand a bit of French: you'll find a large list of
> French-run mailing list services at
>
> https://www.chatons.org/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=114&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=1&title=
>
>
> --
> Lucas
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