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32-bit JPilot for Debian

JM
Jeffrey Melton
Sat, Jan 15, 2022 12:29 AM

I have an old 32-bit laptop which used to run XUbuntu, and I had JPilot
installed there.  It worked well enough, but Ubuntu had killed 32-bit
support.

I ended up installing MX Linux, a Debian variant that still has 32-bit
support.  Is there a place I can get a 32 bit version of JPilot?  It's
not in the package archives.  I'm not that familiar with building from
source, so I would prefer to avoid that if possible.

All the best,

Jeff Melton

I have an old 32-bit laptop which used to run XUbuntu, and I had JPilot installed there.  It worked well enough, but Ubuntu had killed 32-bit support. I ended up installing MX Linux, a Debian variant that still has 32-bit support.  Is there a place I can get a 32 bit version of JPilot?  It's not in the package archives.  I'm not that familiar with building from source, so I would prefer to avoid that if possible. All the best, Jeff Melton
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unforgettableid@gmail.com
Mon, Jan 31, 2022 10:24 PM

Jeffrey Melton wrote:

I have an old 32-bit laptop which used to run XUbuntu, and I had JPilot installed there.  It worked well enough, but Ubuntu had killed 32-bit support.  […]

Is there a place I can get a 32 bit version of JPilot?

Good question!

Regarding where to get prebuilt 32-bit J-Pilot packages for Linux:  You can probably get these, but they’d have dependencies.  You'd need to install both the dependencies and the packages themselves.

Why not run NetBSD instead?  NetBSD is an open-source Unix (not Linux) operating system which still offers good support for the i386 platform.

NetBSD lets you install J-Pilot 1.8.2 in package or port form.  Try the package first.  If it doesn't install successfully, try the port instead.

I personally have used one of NetBSD's cousins, but I've never used NetBSD itself.  It goes without saying that I have never tried J-Pilot on NetBSD either.  Still, I suppose the steps to get J-Pilot installed and working might be:

A.)  Download and install the newest i386 version of NetBSD.  Currently, the newest version is 9.2.

B.)  Use pkg_add to install pkgin.

C.)  Use pkgin to install jpilot.  I suspect that this may automatically pull in the X Window System, GTK2, and other necessary dependencies.

D.)  Install a desktop environment.  If you're used to Xubuntu, you might like Xfce.  Please see:  https://slice2.com/2019/09/21/howto-install-the-xfce-4-desktop-on-netbsd-8-1/

E.)  Start your desktop environment.

F.)  Start a terminal emulator, if one is installed.

G.)  Run the jpilot command.

If you use the machine for J-Pilot purposes only, you never need to upgrade your copy of NetBSD or your Web browser.  If you ever open a Web browser on the machine, it would be wise to keep both NetBSD and your chosen Web browser up to date, by upgrading to the newest versions once a month or so.

Why not run J-Pilot on a modern 64-bit machine?  Do you own such a machine?  And, if you do, what operating system(s) are installed on it?

Jeffrey Melton wrote: > I have an old 32-bit laptop which used to run XUbuntu, and I had JPilot installed there.  It worked well enough, but Ubuntu had killed 32-bit support. \[…\] > > Is there a place I can get a 32 bit version of JPilot? Good question! Regarding where to get prebuilt 32-bit J-Pilot packages for Linux: You can probably get these, but they’d have dependencies. You'd need to install both the dependencies and the packages themselves. Why not run NetBSD instead? NetBSD is an open-source Unix (not Linux) operating system which still offers good support for the i386 platform. NetBSD lets you install J-Pilot 1.8.2 in package or port form. Try the package first. If it doesn't install successfully, try the port instead. I personally have used one of NetBSD's cousins, but I've never used NetBSD itself. It goes without saying that I have never tried J-Pilot on NetBSD either. Still, I suppose the steps to get J-Pilot installed and working might be: A.) Download and install the newest i386 version of NetBSD. Currently, the newest version is 9.2. B.) Use pkg_add to install pkgin. C.) Use pkgin to install jpilot. I suspect that this may automatically pull in the X Window System, GTK2, and other necessary dependencies. D.) Install a desktop environment. If you're used to Xubuntu, you might like Xfce. Please see: https://slice2.com/2019/09/21/howto-install-the-xfce-4-desktop-on-netbsd-8-1/ E.) Start your desktop environment. F.) Start a terminal emulator, if one is installed. G.) Run the jpilot command. If you use the machine for J-Pilot purposes only, you never need to upgrade your copy of NetBSD or your Web browser. If you ever open a Web browser on the machine, it would be wise to keep both NetBSD and your chosen Web browser up to date, by upgrading to the newest versions once a month or so. Why not run J-Pilot on a modern 64-bit machine? Do you own such a machine? And, if you do, what operating system(s) are installed on it?
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unforgettableid
Tue, Sep 20, 2022 7:11 AM

On 1/14/22, Jeffrey Melton jmelton@dls.net wrote:

I have an old 32-bit laptop which used to run Xubuntu, and I had JPilot
installed there.  It worked well enough, but Ubuntu had killed 32-bit
support. ...  Is there a place I can get a 32 bit version of JPilot?  ...

Hi!  Good question.

32-bit machines went out of fashion years ago.  You can still use one,
but it may not be worth the extra time and effort required.  Nowadays,
you can get a used or refurbished 64-bit machine reasonably cheaply,
from a variety of sources.  You might even be able to get some old
64-bit hardware for free, from a relative who has since upgraded to
newer hardware.  If you can easily afford to get a 64-bit machine, I
would recommend that you do so.

Regarding where to get prebuilt 32-bit J-Pilot packages for Linux:
You can probably get these, but they’d have dependencies.  You'd need
to install both the dependencies and the packages themselves.

If you insist on using an old 32-bit laptop, why not run NetBSD
instead?  NetBSD is an open-source Unix (not Linux) operating system
which still offers good support for the i386 platform.

NetBSD lets you install J-Pilot 1.8.2 in package or port form.  Try
the package first.  If it doesn't install successfully, try the port
instead.

I personally have used one of NetBSD's cousins, but I've never used
NetBSD itself.  It goes without saying that I have never tried J-Pilot
on NetBSD either.  Still, I suppose the steps to get J-Pilot installed
and working might be:

A.)  Download and install the newest i386 version of NetBSD.
Currently, the newest version is 9.3.

B.)  Use pkg_add to install pkgin.

C.)  Use pkgin to install jpilot.  I suspect that this may
automatically pull in the X Window System, GTK2, and other necessary
dependencies.

D.)  Install a desktop environment.  If you're used to Xubuntu, you
might like Xfce.  Please see:
https://slice2.com/2019/09/21/howto-install-the-xfce-4-desktop-on-netbsd-8-1/

E.)  Start your desktop environment.

F.)  Start a terminal emulator, if one is installed.

G.)  Run the jpilot command.

If you use the machine for J-Pilot purposes only, you never need to
upgrade your copy of NetBSD or your Web browser.  If you ever open a
Web browser on the machine, it would be wise to keep both NetBSD and
your chosen Web browser up to date, by upgrading to the newest
versions once a month or so.

Why not run J-Pilot on a modern 64-bit machine?  Do you own such a
machine?  And, if you do, what operating system(s) are installed on
it?

On 1/14/22, Jeffrey Melton <jmelton@dls.net> wrote: > I have an old 32-bit laptop which used to run Xubuntu, and I had JPilot > installed there. It worked well enough, but Ubuntu had killed 32-bit > support. ... Is there a place I can get a 32 bit version of JPilot? ... Hi! Good question. 32-bit machines went out of fashion years ago. You can still use one, but it may not be worth the extra time and effort required. Nowadays, you can get a used or refurbished 64-bit machine reasonably cheaply, from a variety of sources. You might even be able to get some old 64-bit hardware for free, from a relative who has since upgraded to newer hardware. If you can easily afford to get a 64-bit machine, I would recommend that you do so. Regarding where to get prebuilt 32-bit J-Pilot packages for Linux: You can probably get these, but they’d have dependencies. You'd need to install both the dependencies and the packages themselves. If you insist on using an old 32-bit laptop, why not run NetBSD instead? NetBSD is an open-source Unix (not Linux) operating system which still offers good support for the i386 platform. NetBSD lets you install J-Pilot 1.8.2 in package or port form. Try the package first. If it doesn't install successfully, try the port instead. I personally have used one of NetBSD's cousins, but I've never used NetBSD itself. It goes without saying that I have never tried J-Pilot on NetBSD either. Still, I suppose the steps to get J-Pilot installed and working might be: A.) Download and install the newest i386 version of NetBSD. Currently, the newest version is 9.3. B.) Use pkg_add to install pkgin. C.) Use pkgin to install jpilot. I suspect that this may automatically pull in the X Window System, GTK2, and other necessary dependencies. D.) Install a desktop environment. If you're used to Xubuntu, you might like Xfce. Please see: https://slice2.com/2019/09/21/howto-install-the-xfce-4-desktop-on-netbsd-8-1/ E.) Start your desktop environment. F.) Start a terminal emulator, if one is installed. G.) Run the jpilot command. If you use the machine for J-Pilot purposes only, you never need to upgrade your copy of NetBSD or your Web browser. If you ever open a Web browser on the machine, it would be wise to keep both NetBSD and your chosen Web browser up to date, by upgrading to the newest versions once a month or so. Why not run J-Pilot on a modern 64-bit machine? Do you own such a machine? And, if you do, what operating system(s) are installed on it?
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sawbona@gmx.net
Tue, Sep 20, 2022 11:02 AM

Hello:

I have a ca. 2010 Asus 1000HE netbook, Intel Atom 280 CPU, 2Gb RAM and a 500Gb SATA drive.

It runs a 32bit Devuan Linux Chimaera (no systemd).

No speed demon but I use it for when I travel and to run my coffee roasting software.

Check it out: https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan

Best,

JHM

Hello: I have a ca. 2010 Asus 1000HE netbook, Intel Atom 280 CPU, 2Gb RAM and a 500Gb SATA drive. It runs a 32bit Devuan Linux Chimaera (no systemd). No speed demon but I use it for when I travel and to run my coffee roasting software. Check it out: https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan Best, JHM
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sawbona@gmx.net
Tue, Sep 20, 2022 12:23 PM
Hello: You can get the latest Debian 32bit jPilot here: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/j/jpilot/ ie: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/j/jpilot/jpilot_1.8.2-2_i386.deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/j/jpilot/jpilot-plugins_1.8.2-2_i386.deb Best, JHM