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Re: [jp] Pilot-link/jpilot support for Debian and Ubuntu 20.04

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sawbona@gmx.net
Sun, Jan 26, 2020 6:36 PM

Hello:

On 24 Jan 2020 at 18:18, Judd Montgomery wrote:

Someone can update that plugin ...
... its a whole new file format.

I see.

I don't see it as related to making jpilot build ...

I thought it was 'part' of jpilot.

Who is the maintainer of the plugin?
Maybe they'd be up to updating it.

Thanks in advance.

Hello: On 24 Jan 2020 at 18:18, Judd Montgomery wrote: > Someone can update that plugin ... > ... its a whole new file format. I see. > I don't see it as related to making jpilot build ... I thought it was 'part' of jpilot. Who is the maintainer of the plugin? Maybe they'd be up to updating it. Thanks in advance.
JM
Judd Montgomery
Mon, Jan 27, 2020 9:32 PM

On 1/26/20 1:36 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

Hello:

On 24 Jan 2020 at 18:18, Judd Montgomery wrote:

Someone can update that plugin ...
... its a whole new file format.

I see.

I don't see it as related to making jpilot build ...

I thought it was 'part' of jpilot.

Who is the maintainer of the plugin?
Maybe they'd be up to updating it.

I wrote jpilot and the KeyRing, Expense and SyncTime plugins. How set
are you on using KeyRing?  I've been pondering writing a plugin that
uses pass https://www.passwordstore.org/

Judd

On 1/26/20 1:36 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote: > Hello: > > On 24 Jan 2020 at 18:18, Judd Montgomery wrote: > >> Someone can update that plugin ... >> ... its a whole new file format. > I see. > >> I don't see it as related to making jpilot build ... > I thought it was 'part' of jpilot. > > Who is the maintainer of the plugin? > Maybe they'd be up to updating it. I wrote jpilot and the KeyRing, Expense and SyncTime plugins. How set are you on using KeyRing?  I've been pondering writing a plugin that uses pass https://www.passwordstore.org/ Judd
RS
Rich Shepard
Mon, Jan 27, 2020 10:58 PM

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, Judd Montgomery wrote:

I wrote jpilot and the KeyRing, Expense and SyncTime plugins. How set are
you on using KeyRing? I've been pondering writing a plugin that uses pass
https://www.passwordstore.org/

Judd,

Pass looks better and easier than keepassxc. Thanks for the pointer.

Rich

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, Judd Montgomery wrote: > I wrote jpilot and the KeyRing, Expense and SyncTime plugins. How set are > you on using KeyRing? I've been pondering writing a plugin that uses pass > https://www.passwordstore.org/ Judd, Pass looks better and easier than keepassxc. Thanks for the pointer. Rich
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sawbona@gmx.net
Mon, Jan 27, 2020 11:35 PM

Hello:

On 27 Jan 2020 at 16:32, Judd Montgomery wrote:

I wrote jpilot and the KeyRing, Expense and SyncTime plugins.

I see ...
I have found out KeyRing is dead and the authors/maintainers have no interest.
Seems it has been more than 10 years since the last commit.

In my opinion (fwiw) Palms, from the P series on, still have a great potential for many things.
One of them is password management.

Much more for anyone who has an inherent distrust of anything on-line or cloudy.
Like me.  =^/

And there are loads of brand new Tungstens on sale on ebay.
Pity the wireless on the TX is short of useless as it does not/cannot use WPA2-PSK.

Palm wrote (and actually sold) an update to enterprise WPA but that's all.
No good for anyone but enterprise users.

How set are you on using KeyRing?

I'm really not set on anything in particular.
I've been using KeyRing because it was included in your j-pilot programme and it works albeit
the newest version seems to be more secure.

But if you add/enable something else to j-pilot, I'm all for it: j-pilot has been a life saver for
me.

I've been pondering writing a plugin that uses pass https://www.passwordstore.org/

I'll have a look at it but if it is OK for you, it is for me.
Surely all other j-pilot users will opine likewise.

Thank you very much for your efforts.

Cheers,

Hello: On 27 Jan 2020 at 16:32, Judd Montgomery wrote: > I wrote jpilot and the KeyRing, Expense and SyncTime plugins. I see ... I have found out KeyRing is dead and the authors/maintainers have no interest. Seems it has been more than 10 years since the last commit. In my opinion (fwiw) Palms, from the P series on, still have a great potential for many things. One of them is password management. Much more for anyone who has an inherent distrust of anything on-line or cloudy. Like me. =^/ And there are loads of brand new Tungstens on sale on ebay. Pity the wireless on the TX is short of useless as it does not/cannot use WPA2-PSK. Palm wrote (and actually sold) an update to enterprise WPA but that's all. No good for anyone but enterprise users. > How set are you on using KeyRing? I'm really not set on anything in particular. I've been using KeyRing because it was included in your j-pilot programme and it works albeit the newest version seems to be more secure. But if you add/enable something else to j-pilot, I'm all for it: j-pilot has been a life saver for me. > I've been pondering writing a plugin that uses pass https://www.passwordstore.org/ I'll have a look at it but if it is OK for you, it is for me. Surely all other j-pilot users will opine likewise. Thank you very much for your efforts. Cheers,
NP
Norbert Preining
Mon, Jan 27, 2020 11:50 PM

Hi all,

Pass looks better and easier than keepassxc. Thanks for the pointer.

Pass is great, in particular when you are used to use gpg and have a git
server somewhere. I switched to it, and the chrome/firefox plugin is
great.

I have found out KeyRing is dead and the authors/maintainers have no interest.
Seems it has been more than 10 years since the last commit.

Probably you mean a different keyring, because the one used across quite
a lot of OSS platforms is alive:
https://pypi.org/project/keyring/#history
last release 2020-01-12? Are you talking about a different project?
It has excellent backends, even for pass.

Best

Norbert

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Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev
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Hi all, > Pass looks better and easier than keepassxc. Thanks for the pointer. Pass is great, in particular when you are used to use gpg and have a git server somewhere. I switched to it, and the chrome/firefox plugin is great. > I have found out KeyRing is dead and the authors/maintainers have no interest. > Seems it has been more than 10 years since the last commit. Probably you mean a different keyring, because the one used across quite a lot of OSS platforms is alive: https://pypi.org/project/keyring/#history last release 2020-01-12? Are you talking about a different project? It has excellent backends, even for pass. Best Norbert -- PREINING Norbert http://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
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sawbona@gmx.net
Tue, Jan 28, 2020 1:39 AM

Hello:

On 28 Jan 2020 at 8:50, Norbert Preining wrote:

Probably you mean a different keyring ...

Yes ...
I am referring to the one for PalmOS that uses the plugin present in j-pilot:

http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnukeyring/files/
Latest version is keyring-2.0-pre-en.zip from 2013-06-03

Cheers,

Hello: On 28 Jan 2020 at 8:50, Norbert Preining wrote: > Probably you mean a different keyring ... Yes ... I am referring to the one for PalmOS that uses the plugin present in j-pilot: http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnukeyring/files/ Latest version is keyring-2.0-pre-en.zip from 2013-06-03 Cheers,
NP
Norbert Preining
Tue, Jan 28, 2020 2:00 AM

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnukeyring/files/
Latest version is keyring-2.0-pre-en.zip from 2013-06-03

Uggh, another of those dead projects :-(

Thanks for the pointer, I don't remember what I used back then in Palm
times ... now I am `pass' only.

Best

Norbert

--
PREINING Norbert                              http://www.preining.info
Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev
GPG: 0x860CDC13  fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, sawbona@gmx.net wrote: > http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net/ > https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnukeyring/files/ > Latest version is keyring-2.0-pre-en.zip from 2013-06-03 Uggh, another of those dead projects :-( Thanks for the pointer, I don't remember what I used back then in Palm times ... now I am `pass' only. Best Norbert -- PREINING Norbert http://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
JM
Judd Montgomery
Tue, Jan 28, 2020 10:41 PM

On 1/27/20 8:39 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

Hello:

On 28 Jan 2020 at 8:50, Norbert Preining wrote:

Probably you mean a different keyring ...

Yes ...
I am referring to the one for PalmOS that uses the plugin present in j-pilot:

http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnukeyring/files/
Latest version is keyring-2.0-pre-en.zip from 2013-06-03

I seem to remember there was talk that keyring 2.0 might not be secure
because it hadn't been around long, hadn't been audited etc.  That is
why I just stayed on the 1.x version back when I used it.

Judd

On 1/27/20 8:39 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote: > Hello: > > On 28 Jan 2020 at 8:50, Norbert Preining wrote: > >> Probably you mean a different keyring ... > Yes ... > I am referring to the one for PalmOS that uses the plugin present in j-pilot: > > http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net/ > https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnukeyring/files/ > Latest version is keyring-2.0-pre-en.zip from 2013-06-03 I seem to remember there was talk that keyring 2.0 might not be secure because it hadn't been around long, hadn't been audited etc.  That is why I just stayed on the 1.x version back when I used it. Judd
JM
Judd Montgomery
Tue, Jan 28, 2020 10:44 PM

On 1/27/20 6:35 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

In my opinion (fwiw) Palms, from the P series on, still have a great potential for many things.
One of them is password management.

Much more for anyone who has an inherent distrust of anything on-line or cloudy.
Like me.  =^/

It seems like everyone left on this list is opposed to the cloudy future
of storing all of your data with corporations.

Judd

On 1/27/20 6:35 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote: > In my opinion (fwiw) Palms, from the P series on, still have a great potential for many things. > One of them is password management. > > Much more for anyone who has an inherent distrust of anything on-line or cloudy. > Like me. =^/ It seems like everyone left on this list is opposed to the cloudy future of storing all of your data with corporations. Judd
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Bob
Tue, Jan 28, 2020 10:49 PM

absolutely. I back up on external hard drives not something in the sky

Bob

On Tue, 28 Jan 2020, Judd Montgomery wrote:

On 1/27/20 6:35 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

In my opinion (fwiw) Palms, from the P series on, still have a great
potential for many things.
One of them is password management.

Much more for anyone who has an inherent distrust of anything on-line or
cloudy.
Like me.  =^/

It seems like everyone left on this list is opposed to the cloudy future
of storing all of your data with corporations.

Judd


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absolutely. I back up on external hard drives not something in the sky Bob On Tue, 28 Jan 2020, Judd Montgomery wrote: > > On 1/27/20 6:35 PM, sawbona@gmx.net wrote: >> In my opinion (fwiw) Palms, from the P series on, still have a great >> potential for many things. >> One of them is password management. >> >> Much more for anyone who has an inherent distrust of anything on-line or >> cloudy. >> Like me. =^/ > > It seems like everyone left on this list is opposed to the cloudy future > of storing all of your data with corporations. > > Judd > > > > _______________________________________________ > Jpilot mailing list > Jpilot@lists.jpilot.org > http://lists.jpilot.org/mailman/listinfo/jpilot_lists.jpilot.org > >