[jp] Jpilot wish list - Android phone related

Kevin Jaspan kjaspan at gmail.com
Wed Dec 14 09:13:27 EST 2011


For a portable note tool try Evernote. Unfortunately it's in the cloud.
Here's a mobile version:
http://www.evernote.com/about/trunk/items/evernote-mobile?lang=en&layout=default

Kevin

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Shapeshifter910 <shapeshifter910 at shaw.ca>wrote:

> **
> Hi,
> No, I haven't reported the bugs.
> The export bug has been ongoing for years and was reported before.
> I figured Jpilot has been in maintenance mode for last few years since
> there have been so few changes.
> I'm now using Thunderbird to hold my contact and calendar data (although I
> haven't been using the calendar much).
> The Thunderbird addressbook actually works ok so far with the Android
> contacts.
> I have not resolved my notes yet.
> I used Jpilot memo pad for notes. I didn't have many but it was useful and
> the categories could be edited and new ones added so it was ok. But no
> interface for quickly switching between categories, like a toolbar or tabs
> so I didn't use it as much as I'd like and only kept around 40 memos there.
> For years I've been using simple text files for notes since I couldn't
> find a good, multiplatform, portable note program. So I do with less but I
> can get to my text files from anywhere, even over ssh from my phone to my
> computer remotely if I need one I don't have on the phone. And they're
> quick to copy and easy to access with just any program that can open plain
> text files.
> But yeah, I wouldn't mind trying a more sophisticated note or
> knowledge-base system.
> DejaOffice runs only on the phone, I need something on my computer as I
> spend a lot of time in front of the computer, more than with my phone.
> And not only it's not open source (which is one of my requirements), it's
> Windows only, they don't even have a Mac version yet, never mind Linux one.
> Yeah, I'm not putting any new data to Jpilot any more and once I transfer
> my notes out of it I'll probably remove it so it's not distracting me.
> I wish I could keep using it but it just doesn't meet my needs any more.
> The limited and broken export being the main problem, but I'm missing some
> basic features too, like status line with total records. Right now I can't
> even tell how many contacts I have in there.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/14/2011 12:53 AM, Johan Vromans wrote:
>
> Shapeshifter910 <shapeshifter910 at shaw.ca> <shapeshifter910 at shaw.ca> writes:
>
>
>  Anyway, sorry for the long post. But I figure if it'll help someone to
> get their data onto the phone, then so be it.
>
>  No problem. It's an very interesting and illustrative post.
>
> Also, you point out some problems with CSV and vCard export which I
> think may be bugs in JPilot. Did you report these as bugs? A real
> solution is always better than individual workarounds :)
>
>
>  So to recap the tools used:
> Jpilot to csv
> Edit csv in Libreoffice Calc
> Import csv into Thunderbird addressbook
> Use MoreFunctionsforAddressbook extension to export to Vcard (vcf)
> Copy vcf onto Android phone and "tap" from file-manager to initiate
> import.
>
>  I'm working on a similar project, although I prefer to write the
> necessary conversion programs myself.
>
> Reading your story, I wondered where you maintain your data. I
> understand that you abandoned JPilot (and the Palm) and are now using
> the Android Contacts app with Thunderbird on the desktop, is that right?
>
> My personal (and current) approach is to use JPilot for major
> maintenance, with Palm and Android as 'portable extensions' (in a
> material sense). I currently aim at using DejaOffice since its data is
> stored locally and the data model is capable of dealing with JPilot's
> data. I have a working import where the raw JPilot addressbook is
> processed into SQL statements that insert the data into the DejaOffice
> SQLite database. Copying the files is trivial, The biggest part of the
> conversion is to deal with different address and phone types.
>
> That's why I consider vCard import/export insufficient since vCards
> cannot deal with the way address and phone types are used in JPilot.
>
> -- Johan
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